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Post by raphoenix on Dec 16, 2015 22:34:59 GMT
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Post by Lighthouse on Dec 18, 2015 8:52:07 GMT
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Post by raphoenix on Dec 18, 2015 13:50:23 GMT
Lighthouse
I think I must have posted on "another broad somewhere that when using a Dual Band Router, HP wireless printers automatically try to set themselves up on the lower band which cause much grief when setting up Windows 10.
HP 50~100 USD printers are nothing but "throw away" junk anyway.
They are programed for sleep mode after very short periods of use and don't wake up well without restarting the both printer and computer.
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Post by Lighthouse on Dec 18, 2015 14:23:04 GMT
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Post by irvsp on Dec 19, 2015 0:58:58 GMT
Just saw this... Open Device Manager and show Hidden Devices. I think under Printers you'll see them and delete or uninstall them.
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Post by raphoenix on Dec 19, 2015 2:46:02 GMT
irvsp
When I switch the machines to use the lower band on the dual band router, the null print driver is not offered as an update anymore.
I guess this old $50 printer just defaults to the older wifi lower band.
Since word is that MS is going to INCREASE the frequency of new updates, I'll just continue to use printer defaults as it will become a hassle to reconfigure (4) machines every week or so.
By the way, Classic Shell Program only half way works with this new revision of Windows 10.
The top button will NOT switch the View to Native Windows 10 Start Menu.
That's fine with me. (LOL)
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Post by irvsp on Dec 19, 2015 12:38:09 GMT
irvsp
When I switch the machines to use the lower band on the dual band router, the null print driver is not offered as an update anymore.
I guess this old $50 printer just defaults to the older wifi lower band. I don't see HOW the band of a router should matter? It is ONLY a signal? I get HARD WIRED by the way. Makes no sense to me, either you are connected to the printer or you are not? I really suspect s/w installing it, just not using/registering it, but MS updates can see it (the s/w or a specific file set) and therefore during an update WILL install them. I also found this interesting program, www.homedev.com.au/Free/PatchCleaner, I ran it but didn't use it to remove/move anything. It claims I have 81 files that are not in use for almost 800mb's in size. I'm reluctant to use it as it doesn't seem I can actually see the list of files without first moving them. Stuff comes from the WINDOWS\INSTALLER folder and from what I can see it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to determine what any file really is for from looking at the files? According to this, smallbusiness.chron.com/delete-windows-installer-patch-files-55163.html, only the files in C:\Windows\Installer\$PatchCache$ directory, called the baseline cache, are safe to delete. Problem is there are only 54 folders there on my system. I opened a few and they have from 1 to 4 files in it. I'd suspect way more than the 81 the program says I have? So I really am reluctant to mess with this program, but it is interesting to say the least. Everything I've seen says don't mess with this though? Hmm, just got the pop-up about I need to log into my MS account again? Could it have been this program? I'll find out if I re-boot and see that crazy prompt to log-in with a non-account?
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Post by Lighthouse on Dec 19, 2015 14:11:29 GMT
Using Win 7, I just delete that Installer folder. Make sure you create at least 1 image backup before you do delete it. I create 2 image backups nightly on 2 different external drives (automatically with Aomei Backupper Pro)
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Post by raphoenix on Dec 19, 2015 22:22:21 GMT
Lighthouse
That's a $50 USD program.
There has to be something cheaper than that for hobbyist.
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Post by raphoenix on Dec 19, 2015 23:01:41 GMT
irvsp
After reading hundreds of posting on line concerning the HP Null Print Driver (Windows 7, 8, 8.1, 10), I believe the only way to get rid of the problem forever is to purchase another brand of printer.
If one investigates, they will find Null Printer problems with every model HP Printer on every O/S.
The Null Print software errors have been around for many years so it appears HP it NOT going to fix their software come hell or high water.
Solution is to purchase a better brand name printer.
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Post by Lighthouse on Dec 20, 2015 11:30:14 GMT
Rick, oh no it's not. Every time Aomei updates it, they give the older version away free on GAOTD. And the older versions work just fine. In fact it's the only imager that has never given me any problems. Even Norton Ghost would only work half the time. (I have tried them all)
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Post by Lighthouse on Dec 20, 2015 11:32:34 GMT
Rick, I can recommend Brother printers. Cheap, and economical on ink.
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Post by raphoenix on Dec 20, 2015 13:03:21 GMT
Lighthouse
I remember whs once posted a WIM image backup program that he had made which was free.
However that program may no longer be free ??
You are correct concerning Brother Printers.
Most of The Professional Reviews concerning HP products are just horrid now.
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Post by Lighthouse on Dec 20, 2015 13:10:17 GMT
This by any chance, social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/cb96541b-4fb1-4364-a72c-2eb64d265bea/how-to-archive-a-client-pc-backup-from-windows-home-server-backup?forum=whsfaqor. whs Posts: 17584 You probably were using the Vista file backup function. Now file backup assumes D: as default because in a genuine MS Vista, this partition is empty. But since the OEMs are too cheap to ship recovery disks with their boxes, they prostituted this partition to serve as recovery partition. Now there are 3 things you need to do: 1. Remove (delete) all the files from D: that are not part of the recovery partition. The recovery partition is the big BASE.WIM (which probably is supposed to mean Windows Image). The files within the BASE.WIM folder are all hidden files. If you are not sure which is what, double click on D: and make a snip of what's on there and post it here. We'll take a look at it. 2. For your file backups in the backup and restore center you have to assign another drive. D: and C: are out. It must be either another partition (if you have one) or an external device (external disk, USB drive of sufficient capacity or even the DVD drive - although that is a bit messy). 3. Burn a recovery disk from this recovery partition asap. Type REC into the start/search field. That should bring up something like "Recovery disk creation (or wizard)". Go there and follow the wizard. You have to have 2 DVD-R's handy (CD's are no good). This will create recovery DVDs for you. In case anything ever happens to your D: or if your disk crashes, you have at least those to rebuild your Vista. Btw: The system restore points for C: do not go on there. They would be far too big (1GB a piece). They go into the shadowstorage - a part of your C: disk that you do not see. If you have enabled restore points for D:, you should disable them. That makes no sense. Those restore points would be a lot smaller though. But again, the shadowstorage on D: (if any) you can only "see" with Cmd. If you suspect there is some, come back and I tell you how to proceed.
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Post by raphoenix on Dec 20, 2015 22:03:18 GMT
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