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Post by irvsp on Sept 25, 2014 16:03:31 GMT
GlassWire Network Security MonitorNeat, but it can lead one into chasing dead ends. Will probably clearly show bad operations. I was surprised when I started it that Skye contacted INDIA!!! Actually when I looked at Traffic, all Apps, Skye was the heaviest user and contacting a 'ton' of places. That is with it set to 'away' no less? Do get some 'annoying' pop-ups when first started telling you of the 'first' notice of something. I don't think I'll use it all the time but it is an interesting tool, especially if the Internet doesn't seem 'right'.
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Post by warlock on Sept 25, 2014 22:40:01 GMT
Don't know if I need it or ever will, but will try it this weekend. Thanks Irv.
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Post by Admin_Vistamike on Sept 26, 2014 11:00:13 GMT
Thanks, Irv.
I am a heavy internet user on 2 machines, downloading a lot of test programs etc, so would find it useful. Yes, on first start, it has a quite few 'first time' alerts but that should settle over a few days. The included Firewall and usage facility might also be of use. In general, for a freebie this seems quite a fair bit of kit to use. The process runs an average of 20,000K process, not unreasonable for the data collection involved. It can be stopped for auto run if necessary. There is an odd problem with the security function which I am looking into (I have 2 admin account on this machine).
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Post by irvsp on Sept 26, 2014 14:08:05 GMT
The included Firewall and usage facility might also be of use. In general, for a freebie this seems quite a fair bit of kit to use. The process runs an average of 20,000K process, not unreasonable for the data collection involved. I turned off the auto-start, will use it manually when needed? I didn't turn on the FW. My Security Suite has one and my router runs one as well. Didn't want to put too many in, but I will play with it later. From the little I ran it I was amazed at Skype. A lot, and I mean a lot, of connections made to different companies. With the computer sitting idle it did the most traffic by far. Mind you I keep mine running but I'm marked as 'away'. I'm considering now not auto-starting it. However it probably is just 'listening' vs. actually doing something and has no real load factor. Oh, it also appears this is really a 'beta', not the final product which might not be free. Still, it is worthwhile to add to my 'toolbox'.
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Post by GuiltySpark on Sept 27, 2014 15:00:50 GMT
Windows Vista = Glasswire is not compatible with this Operating System.
Err...it says Windows.
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Post by irvsp on Sept 29, 2014 15:44:22 GMT
Windows Vista = Glasswire is not compatible with this Operating System. Err...it says Windows. Some people might debate if Vista is Windows My old Dell came with Vista (7 years or so ago). My wife was running XP on a Dual Core Intel I recall. The first thing I did was benchmark the new computer. Even though I had a faster hard drive, 4 cores vs. 2 at higher clock speed, and more and fast RAM it benchmarked about the same? Huh??? Within a year W7 came out and I jumped on it. Basically doubled my computing power, everything from boot to opening apps was faster. There is a REASON MS replaced it fast W7 was by far the best 'release' MS made, in terms of problems users had initially and stability. W8 isn't too bad either and in some respects superior to W7. Only problem with W8 was/is acceptance. Mostly due to MS's "we know better than you what you need" mentality and desire to integrate tablets and phones and have them 'work the same way' on a PC. Made a nice cottage industry for programs that put back the old W7 way of doing things and open to the desktop. W8 has left a bad taste in many peoples minds/mouths and they will not migrate. Especially true with companies and organizations, especially is new h/w is required as well as testing or rewriting apps. Hopefully MS thinks W9 will 'solve' these apparent problems. My suggestion to your is RUN, do not WALK, to upgrade to W7...
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Post by GuiltySpark on Sept 29, 2014 15:56:26 GMT
Windows Vista = Glasswire is not compatible with this Operating System. Err...it says Windows. Some people might debate if Vista is Windows My old Dell came with Vista (7 years or so ago). My wife was running XP on a Dual Core Intel I recall. The first thing I did was benchmark the new computer. Even though I had a faster hard drive, 4 cores vs. 2 at higher clock speed, and more and fast RAM it benchmarked about the same? Huh??? Within a year W7 came out and I jumped on it. Basically doubled my computing power, everything from boot to opening apps was faster. There is a REASON MS replaced it fast W7 was by far the best 'release' MS made, in terms of problems users had initially and stability. W8 isn't too bad either and in some respects superior to W7. Only problem with W8 was/is acceptance. Mostly due to MS's "we know better than you what you need" mentality and desire to integrate tablets and phones and have them 'work the same way' on a PC. Made a nice cottage industry for programs that put back the old W7 way of doing things and open to the desktop. W8 has left a bad taste in many peoples minds/mouths and they will not migrate. Especially true with companies and organizations, especially is new h/w is required as well as testing or rewriting apps. Hopefully MS thinks W9 will 'solve' these apparent problems. My suggestion to your is RUN, do not WALK, to upgrade to W7... irvsp If MS were to ever hand over Vista to the Open Source community I would be ecstatic I do have Win 7 in a VM but have said in the past that "once MS stops doing updates for Vista I will go fully Open Source", its just easier and faster by nature. Sure you are limited by some applications not being written for it but that will eventually change in terms of alternatives being created (of which there are many already available). I have no desire to move into a OS designed for touch screens and then trying to adapt it to work on a standard desktop, i think that's MS's biggest problem at present. I know the day is coming and I'm looking forward to it
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Post by irvsp on Sept 29, 2014 16:22:58 GMT
If MS were to ever hand over Vista to the Open Source community I would be ecstatic I do have Win 7 in a VM but have said in the past that "once MS stops doing updates for Vista I will go fully Open Source", its just easier and faster by nature. I have no desire to move into a OS designed for touch screens and then trying to adapt it to work on a standard desktop, i think that's MS's biggest problem at present. I know the day is coming and I'm looking forward to it Open source, never (well, never say never, but surely unlikely, no past history for other older versions). Running anything in a VM is a performance issue. Can't call that the same performance as you'd get native. This is the REAL sticking point in my opinion: "Sure you are limited by some applications not being written for it but that will eventually change in terms of alternatives being created (of which there are many already available)." That is the same problem OS/2 faced vs. Windows. Was much easier to have happen when Win 3.0 was around. Nice idea, poorly executed. Priority tasking vs. Multi-tasking... Vendors and developer's saw the issue and were willing to invest resources to get better performance. However Win 3.1 fixed some of those issues. MS knew it as sales picked up. Broke off from IBM and OS/2 but had the code to build WinNT and then other versions. Problem was all the vendors had Windows version and updating was a lot easier than porting to another OS. Of course you did see some 'new' vendors go straight to OS/2 and out performed Win3.x, but that took time and investment. Many worked on porting to OS/2 but not completely as OS/2 did run Windows code (with a slight performance hit) rather than do the full job. Even then, sales drove them and support was a 2 OS issue. Unix variants will face the same challenges. Yes, your everyday apps, mail, browsers, editors, office apps, etc. will be there in comparable function and performance. It is the other stuff though that might not have full support or even exist. Mostly games but low volume high need 'corporate' programs if not written 'in-house' might be hard to find. I doubt if it will change in the future either? Heck, Mac's are not fully capable of doing everything that PC's can, especially with respect to games. The reverse was true too with respect to Desktop Publishing, Mac/Apple was the champ there years ago.
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Post by Lighthouse on Sept 29, 2014 20:04:18 GMT
I am just waiting for Vista to be unsupported, so I can hack the system to what I want. And yes, I am a Vista fanatic.
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Post by kate on Sept 30, 2014 5:21:36 GMT
And yes, I am a Vista fanatic. yep!!! I second that..... (Doh!!!!!just getting my head around 'ipad' a present for hubby..)so am sure we will have an ipad thread opening soooooon CHOL:)
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Post by irvsp on Sept 30, 2014 14:05:30 GMT
Question: - Why are people NOT moving off of an older OS? Is it because of needed new h/w, fear of learning something new, cost of the new OS and other s/w, or complacency?
I probably jump when I shouldn't all the time, I'll even use a BETA sometimes, but generally speaking most s/w upgrades (point releases or new versions) tend to be a good thing. Yeah, there have been some dogs, and some are buggy as all get out, but overall, they are good. I can't tell you how many people I help out that are still on Vista or even XP. I can tell you MANY are not running any s/w protection. In general, one the shipped computers Security runs out they do NOT renew. I can almost understand the 'uninitiated' that do not really understand what the protection does for them, as well as the OS should be upgraded (once it goes out of service mostly), but not those in the 'know'.
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Post by GuiltySpark on Oct 1, 2014 15:00:42 GMT
Question: - Why are people NOT moving off of an older OS? Is it because of needed new h/w, fear of learning something new, cost of the new OS and other s/w, or complacency?
I probably jump when I shouldn't all the time, I'll even use a BETA sometimes, but generally speaking most s/w upgrades (point releases or new versions) tend to be a good thing. Yeah, there have been some dogs, and some are buggy as all get out, but overall, they are good. I can't tell you how many people I help out that are still on Vista or even XP. I can tell you MANY are not running any s/w protection. In general, one the shipped computers Security runs out they do NOT renew. I can almost understand the 'uninitiated' that do not really understand what the protection does for them, as well as the OS should be upgraded (once it goes out of service mostly), but not those in the 'know'. Probably the biggest issue is cost, however, it really comes down to user preference. Sure people given time can get used to a new OS but if their current one is not broken why 'fix' it by upgrading? Truth is their are probably too many variables involved to give a one definitive answer.
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Post by irvsp on Oct 1, 2014 15:17:09 GMT
Sure people given time can get used to a new OS but if their current one is not broken why 'fix' it by upgrading? Truth is their are probably too many variables involved to give a one definitive answer. See to me, that is part of the problem. People think what they have is not 'broke'. Broke can mean many things. Just because it works for you doesn't mean it isn't broke. You just have not discovered the 'hole'. It can be performance (yes, like Vista vs. W7), security, missing new features, etc. Some of the 'new features', like Metro apps are useless to a desktop system mostly, but there are some others that might be. Overall, moving up is a good thing, at least in my eyes and experiences.
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Post by GuiltySpark on Oct 1, 2014 15:22:56 GMT
Again we come back to the 'variables'. What consists of "moving up"? Switching from one platform to another could be considered moving up to one but not to another whereas simply upgrading an OS on the same platform can be considered moving up to some but not others.
It is merely a question of user preference.
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Post by warlock on Oct 1, 2014 16:10:06 GMT
I agree with both of GS answers above. Cost is a main factor, in my case anyway. Something along the lines of this www.techrepublic.com/article/microsoft-should-get-used-to-giving-windows-away-for-free/ maybe a help but, some updates I still would probably not like. Example I can think of as a user of IE10 is the IE11 update. Tried it didn't see much difference other than the gadgets that I like would not work properly with it. Have three versions of W7 running here. Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate. Only reason I have the Ultimate version on one machine is because a good friend gave it to me, it took the place of Vista that was on it, which was working just fine.
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